Andrew Schulz and Charlamagne tha God make an unlikely couple, on paper at least.
They bring distinct personas to their work, be it the stand-up stage (Schulz) or the radio (tha God’s “Breakfast Club” gig).
Schulz is more center-right, politically speaking, although he’s still hard to peg and can vary from issue to issue. Charlamagne is decidedly on the Left, but he’s smart enough not to preach from the progressive choir 24/7.
NEW: Charlamagne and Andrew Schulz tell Dems to “admit” they were “wrong” about woke stuff
CHARLAMAGNE: “Now that they see politically it cost them, now they all pivoting … It’s okay to admit you was wrong, but don’t just pivot and act like you knew this all along.”… pic.twitter.com/ZFU6xrBXIr
— Jason Cohen (@JasonJournoDC) March 9, 2025
They team up for the “Brilliant Idiots” podcast, letting their disparate styles collide for heartfelt debate. That yielded a strong disagreement this week on one of the most consequential topics today.
Political assassinations.
The subject, of course, flowed from Cole Allen’s alleged attempt to kill not just President Donald Trump but members of his cabinet at the April 25 White House Correspondents’ Dinner gala.
Still, the duo clashed over a critical issue. Is killing President Trump justified, given his policies?
Tha God’s answer surprised Schulz, no doubt, and it speaks to the Left’s embrace of violence in the modern era.
Charlamagne initially suggested he’s not trying to justify political violence. His words said otherwise.
Screamed otherwise, to be more accurate. His partner had his back, for a beat.
“I don’t think you’re justifying it,” Schulz began after hearing some of Charlamagne’s thoughts on Trumpian policies. As a Leftist, they reflect progressive talking points writ large.
Fine.
Except Charlamagne didn’t stop there.
NEW: Andrew Schulz *CALLS OUT* Charlamagne for “JUSTIFYING” WHCD assassination attempt on Trump
CHARLAMAGNE: “Some of these policies have hurt people so much that some folks are willing to risk it all.”
SCHULZ: “Well, now you’re justifying it … It’s plain and simple.” pic.twitter.com/sRBNea7SyZ
— Jason Cohen (@JasonJournoDC) May 3, 2026
“You have to deal with the reality that some of these policies have hurt people so much that some folks are willing to risk it all,” he said.
“Well, now, you’re justifying it,” Schulz said, his arms raised in alarm.
“It’s just a reality you have to deal with,” Charlamagne countered.
“You’re making the argument that people make about bin Laden,” Schulz said. “Which is, well, if America wasn’t doing this s*** in the Middle East, then bin Laden wouldn’t have done it [on 9/11].”
“No,” Charlamagne countered. “I just think that we would be remiss to not take a step back and not just have a conversation about violent rhetoric. Let’s talk about violent policies that people have been watching over the last year and a half and how a lot of people have been hurt by those policies and some of those people are willing to risk it all. To your point earlier, they don’t have nothing else to lose, at least in their mind.
“I’m not saying it’s right, you still have to deal with the reality.”
Schulz tried to be sympathetic to his podcasting co-host, but he noted that it doesn’t take much for a mentally ill person to hear rhetoric like this and then, tragically, act.
“Can you be driven crazy?” Charlamagne countered. “You lose your house, your grandma dies because you couldn’t afford healthcare?”
Stop.
Allen wasn’t directly impacted by Trump’s policies, from what we know so far. Neither was 20-year-old Thomas Crooks, the Butler, Pa. would-be assassin who hit Trump’s ear at that 2024 rally, killed one attendee and injured two others.
And who made healthcare dramatically more expensive? President Barack Obama, that’s who.
The podcasters deserve credit for a civil debate and remaining friends while being divided on core issues. That said, Charlamagne is full of it.
Why?
He claims that DOGE eliminated jobs, and it did. So what? Jobs are eliminated across the country every single day. It stinks for the people impacted by the firings or layoffs, but that is part of the capitalistic system.
How many people have never been fired from a job? Very few, most likely.
Is that “violence?” Is the government entitled to hire someone in perpetuity? According to Charlamagne, government workers can never be fired, even if their job is obsolete or unproductive.
It’s nonsense.
President Joe Biden threw the border wide open. People died as a result, from murders, drug overdoses and more. Could we justify an assassination attempt on him? It was never discussed, not should it have been.
Then again, Charlamagne isn’t even willing to tone down the incendiary rhetoric against President Trump.
Charlamagne’s response? More, please.
“People always say, ‘So, are we going to tone down the violent rhetoric towards Trump?’”
“Stop it!” he added. “Like, I’m sick of that narrative. I need every single media personality to direct that energy and that question toward one person, and that is Donald J. Trump. At what point do people simply say, ‘Hey, Trump, it’s clear that you’re the drama.’”
Schulz is a first-rate comic, but he did a lousy job of setting Charlamagne straight. It’s one of many reasons why comedic podcasters, when they get out of their lane, so often get key principles wrong.
